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In this SKILLS SHORT, Andrew and Ryan discuss strategies and gear for managing perspiration in layering systems, including the processes of wicking, evaporation, and ventilation.


  • Why is layering important?
  • What is wicking and is it good or bad?
  • Do I want my baselayer to wick in the winter?
  • Why is ventilation important in a rain jacket?
  • How can I manage effort and sweat production while backpacking?
  • Is wool warm when wet?
  • What is a good layering system for managing perspiration?


  • Ryan’s go-to baselayer is the Brynje Unisex Super Thermo (this is also Andrew’s favorite layer).
  • Don’t miss our Baselayers, Wicking, and Backpacking Members QA.
  • Stephen Seeber’s Do Moisture-Wicking Fabrics Work article has an in-depth primer of some of the concepts discussed in this podcast.
  • Our Untraditional Layers episode also has some advice for managing perspiration and moisture.
  • Learn about waterproof-breathable fabrics in The Search for a High MVTR Waterproof Breathable Shell Jacket article and the Waterproof Breathable Fabrics podcast episode.

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    Locale: Tahoe basin by way of the southern Appalachians


    Very informative! Thanks.

    Say is there any chance you guys could do an outline or some sort of structure to show the hierarchy or connection.. whatever term is appropriate… of these articles and podcasts? How they are connected. Like a family tree? A flow chart? (haha appropriate) It can get pretty diverse like the earlier article describing the importance of mechanical air openings like pit-zips. It’s a lot to organize and digest and connect.

    PS one thing I learned in college is how to brown-nose so here goes ;) but Ryan you have a great teaching style. I was thinking about this the other day and it occurred to me that to some degree this is going to be a legacy. And a great one! Thanks again.

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